Hatfield, herts to get a skatepark?

by **robrffr** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:28 pm

from positive hatfield group on facebook: I understand there is a possibility of a skatepark being built in hatfield in the relatively near future. As with all building projects though this will need planning consent etc so may still take a while to come to fruition.

Hope it will happen but fear it'll be naff!!!! :roll:

by **dave allen** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:51 am

If it's as bad as Welwyn Garden City's skatepark then you might as well forget about it now. (Same council)

by **robrffr** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:55 pm

I know what you mean, but i got a meeting with a counciler who is very pro skatepark, hopefully he'll understand and make sure they listern to people that use it!! can but hope!!!

by **TonyB** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:17 am

Keep yourself involved if you want it to turn out right. Any idea of Budget? Is there a good group of local skaters that can get involved? It really helps to add some oomph to the design and who the builder is if you have a good group.

by **robrffr** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:20 pm

seems it's going ahead, but instead of the roe hill site, it will now be Links road carpark. not sure if it's taking over some of the car park in fact or to the side of it. will post more details as i get them. i do know that the Town Council agreed to match fund the Borough Council on the project

by **sshorehg** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:09 pm

if you want good value for money and bang for your buck from the builder and maybe something quirky built by skaters for skaters have a look at eastbound skateparks ,
try to use a skater based company and not metal ramp slackliner company :wink:

by **robrffr** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:45 pm

apparently there is a budget of £38,000 for it. No idea what that would buy?

by **camo pete** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:39 pm

robrffr wrote:apparently there is a budget of £38,000 for it. No idea what that would buy?

not much

by **robrffr** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:47 pm

thats what i thought, not holding much hope on it being any good!!

by **dave allen** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:56 pm

When they built the Welwyn Garden City park, the council (Welwyn Hatfield Council) never told anyone they had decided to build one. All we new was when they invited residents to view their "ideas" and voice there opinions on what they wanted and any design changes.
I went along and saw the plans, at this point I tried to get involved. It was then that I discovered that the plans had already been passed, a start date was planned and a contractor had already been hired. The viewing of the plans was just an exercise the council has to do. They weren't interested in anything I had to say and didn't really want me enquiring into "Their business", and definitely didn't want me involved.
Subsequently the park was atrocious. Useless metal objects on rough tarmac. The council sees it as a success as it's always used by pikey little kids on bikes and scooters.
Don't be downhearted though, councils and their protocols change. They might need guidance this time.

by **robrffr** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:26 pm

do what i can, emailed groundwork to see what they are saying, and got a ook, just see what i ccounciller who wants it to happen, started a hatfield skatepark group on facebook, just see what i can do.

by **camo pete** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:25 pm

dave allen wrote:When they built the Welwyn Garden City park, the council (Welwyn Hatfield Council) never told anyone they had decided to build one. All we new was when they invited residents to view their "ideas" and voice there opinions on what they wanted and any design changes.
I went along and saw the plans, at this point I tried to get involved. It was then that I discovered that the plans had already been passed, a start date was planned and a contractor had already been hired. The viewing of the plans was just an exercise the council has to do. They weren't interested in anything I had to say and didn't really want me enquiring into "Their business", and definitely didn't want me involved.
Subsequently the park was atrocious. Useless metal objects on rough tarmac. The council sees it as a success as it's always used by pikey little kids on bikes and scooters.
Don't be downhearted though, councils and their protocols change. They might need guidance this time.

This was what nearly happened to Stoke Newington.Thankfully,after getting some friends involved,we kicked up such a shit storm that the contract had to go out to tender.We also managed to get the 5 top concrete SKATEPARK builders bidding for it,too.From then on,we were involved at each step of the build.

by **robrffr** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:27 pm

A skatepark for Hatfield...what do you think? Fill in the questionnaire...

http://ow.ly/d/IS4

Download and share 2012 07 25 flier-questionairre for residents bw.pdf uploaded by @WelHatCouncil and hosted by Ow.ly

by **robrffr** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:23 pm

First draft CAD for the park:

by **HarryR** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:47 pm

For £38k that doesn't look too bad. Not overly ambitious or too quirky which I think is the right approach for that sort of budget. Just make sure that it's not only 15' square ;-)

by **robrffr** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:52 pm

it's costing more than 38 grand, the counciller i spoke to seems to be like so many others, full of shit!!! he had the wrong location and everything!! :roll:

by **robrffr** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:21 pm

more progress:

http://www.welhat.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=5039

by **TonyB** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:05 pm

Bloody hell its a slow one to get going. Starting some time in the summer....maybe. Should be ready for the snow early next year then.

by **robrffr** » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:02 pm

i know, but i'd rather wait than have a crappy metal thing like w.g.c!!!!!

by **robrffr** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:52 pm

Posted on the facebook page for the hatfield skatepark:

Dear all, i have submitted a question to the local council regarding the state of funding through Groundwork and project time scales. This hopefully will be put to the full council group at a meeting being held next Monday at campus west. It would be great to see as many of you as possible down there to show local support for this. Lets show how positive we all are and how much we want this park to happen.

by **TonyB** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:27 pm

Post the time and address of this meeting.

by **LostnotFound** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:32 pm

I looked up the Facebook group but its a closed one for some reason. Depending on the time I might be able to head down if they are just after numbers.

Is there anywhere nearby for a pre meeting skate?

by **[email protected]** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:02 pm

Potters bar!!!

by **robrffr** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:59 pm

ok, the group is a closed group due to spammers. the meeting is Monday 15th July at 7pm at the Hawthorne Theatre, Campus West:

http://www.hawthornetheatre.co.uk/findus.html

yes, looking for numbers

by **LostnotFound** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:41 am

I'm going to have to be a terrible person and say I can't make it tomorrow as I've got errands to run after work now. :X)

Please let us know how the meeting goes tho'

by **[email protected]** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:33 pm

Just a reminder that this is tonight

by **70mmkryps** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:28 am

me and robrffr went-they were suprised to see two bikers rumble up and sit in there council meeting-apart from being really tedious and contrite there was direct mention of the new park and they have a budget of over 200k-wheter this means we as skaters get a raw deal LIKE LAST TIME remains to be seen-
main thing is WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE-
seems to have very little or zero communication with local skaters-as ususal the massively overpriced establishment park builders are doing deals with moody councillers-or am i just a cynical old punk rocker ?
all i hope is we dont end uop with another fucking street plaza-GROW SOME ! ~..

by **robrffr** » Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:21 pm

Building should start in the next few weeks, aiming at opening end of may.

by **LostnotFound** » Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:57 pm

Sounds good, have you seen any plans? Google only comes up with it being Freestyle that should be doing it.

A park on the way home from work would be top draw. All I'd need is a stab proof hoodie to survive the locals :wink:

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by **robrffr** » Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:18 pm

as far as I know, as per the CAD drawing back up near the top of the thread mate. And the twats around here are only gangsters until you slap them, then they run home to their mummys (not fathers as no doubt they don't know who they are!!)

by **LostnotFound** » Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:43 pm

Fucking serves me right for not paying attention and reading back from the start! Better learn to ride a bowl!

Hatfields not terrible, just has the feeling of a place that could be more of a hanging out destination rather than a skate park.

by **Piers C** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:22 pm

Just seen this.... http://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/190_000_h ... _1_3491385

I had a look over Link drive over the weekend and couldn't see any signs of any work being started and that explains why!

by **LostnotFound** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:01 pm

Fucks sake.

Not sure I agree with the Labour Councillor moaning about it being in the town centre. I mean out of town where only people who drove could get access would be perfect for me, but surely of less use the intended demographic.

by **TonyB** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:57 pm

We understand they are continuing to work with their preferred contractor, Freestyle Skateparks, to resolve some outstanding issues relating to the design of the park

WTF is this supposed to mean? Doesn't sound good.

by **Piers C** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:34 am

I spoke to Martin over Potters Bar last week and he said that the work had started, has anyone else had a look recently?

by **ukoldschool** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:36 pm

It's well under way, going to be pretty small but could be a good spot for a MAS meet up early mornings?

by **Piers C** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:11 pm

Excellent. Cheers for posting.

by **Brian S** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:36 am

Looks like a fun bowl

by **Piers C** » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:15 pm

I had a look over there last night and it has come on loads since that last pic and there is quite a large section that is finished already. There is a vert wall extension with coping at the top (about 3 ft of vert) for the brave (or disturbed!)

by **TonyB** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:29 am

Don't like that high wall around the park at all.

Will be interesting to see how they do the transitions off the roll in.

by **Ben-G** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:58 pm

Looks interesting ~..

by **Piers C** » Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:31 am

Photo swiped from Facebook yesterday.......

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by **bazza5070** » Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:11 am

Thats looking very interesting, and not too far round the M25 :grin:

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by **GarethV** » Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:12 am

TonyB wrote:Don't like that high wall around the park at all.

Will be interesting to see how they do the transitions off the roll in.

Dat wall is dere so da po po's can't see you blazing the weed blood

by **Piers C** » Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:55 am

GarethV wrote:
TonyB wrote:Don't like that high wall around the park at all.

Will be interesting to see how they do the transitions off the roll in.

Dat wall is dere so da po po's can't see you blazing the weed blood

Ha ha an da gate so day can't get in if dey do!!

by **TonyB** » Wed Jul 09, 2014 5:55 pm

by **Piers C** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:12 am

Had a quick look last night and it looks finished but some parts of the crete were still wet (This didn't stop 3 skaters skating it. Hopefully they haven't f**ked anything up!)

by **GarethV** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:04 am

cheeky feckers - oh well at least they were skaters.

Looking forward to the first session here as it looks lots of fun.

Also this also mean we get Potters Bar to ourselves!

by **TonyB** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:21 am

Damn they need to keep people off it before they screw up the finish.

by **Ben-G** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:09 pm

Anyone know when it opens properly? Could be a cracking little park, in my mind it is knee-motivation. ~..

I can picture early morning sessions there in the summer (what do you mean it is summer already?!).

by **Sean73** » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:42 pm

Been told it opens officially on the 25th its getting plenty of use already though!
skated it for the first time this afternoon was pretty busy,good vibe,lot of skaters.
fun place and only about 10-15 minutes away from me!
(AW)

by **GarethV** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:14 pm

Quiet afternoon at work then Sean

May have to head down Sat 26th early doors ~..

while the crete is still fresh

by **Sean73** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:31 pm

GarethV wrote:Quiet afternoon at work then Sean

May have to head down Sat 26th early doors

while the crete is still fresh

Haha,yeah think I'll be having a few more "quiet afternoons" this week!
wouldn't worry about waiting till the 26th like I said its getting rinsed already!
concretes gone off enough,felt pretty hard when I slammed!
..-

by **GarethV** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:30 pm

ha ha maybe this saturday then. Got some manky bug so doubt I will out before then!

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by **Piers C** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:33 pm

'Now Open' http://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/hatfield_ ... 6#cxrecs_s

by **Ozzy777** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:43 pm

camoo pete wrote:
davee allen wrote:When they built the Welwyn Garden City park, the council (Welwyn Hatfield Council) never told anyone they had decided to build one. All we new was when they invited residents to view their "ideas" and voice there opinions on what they wanted and any design changes.
I went along and saw the plans, at this point I tried to get involved. It was then that I discovered that the plans had already been passed, a start date was planned and a contractor had already been hired. The viewing of the plans was just an exercise the council has to do. They weren't interested in anything I had to say and didn't really want me enquiring into "Their business", and definitely didn't want me involved.
Subsequently the park was atrocious. Useless metal objects on rough tarmac. The council sees it as a success as it's always used by pikey little kids on bikes and scooters.
Don't be downhearted though, councils and their protocols change. They might need guidance this time.

This was what nearly happened to Stoke Newington.Thankfully,after getting some friends involved,we kicked up such a shit storm that the contract had to go out to tender.We also managed to get the 5 top concrete SKATEPARK builders bidding for it,too.From then on,we were involved at each step of the build.

Is this skatepark any good? Thinking about going to Hatfield to try it tomorrow.

by ST » Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:37 pm

Nice bowl! rad wall of death

by **TonyB** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:05 pm

Wasn't there some complaint about the roll in/Twinkie being to big and in the way of lines around the bowl. IIRC there was some discussion about getting rid of it or making it smaller.