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Chronic shoulder instability and dislocation

PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:36 pm
by nevertooold
Anyone have any experience of this?
Just been diagnosed after dislocating my shoulder a while back and since then it just pops out randomly and repeatedly!!
Been off my board a couple of weeks waiting for gp apt. - who’s referring me to a specialist. GP was aghast at the idea of me skating!!

So any happy tales of miracle healing??

I figure now I know what it is I’m going to skate but keep off dewy transitions!

Re: Chronic shoulder instability and dislocation

PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:14 pm
by vato kat
My brother took a tumble snowboarding and suffered from similar random dislocations. There was no miracle healing but some surgery which worked out alright.

According to your stance, is it your leading shoulder or trailing shoulder? I'd be more worried about falling onto my leading shoulder (more likely too).

Hang in there! But maybe carefully... :wink:

Re: Chronic shoulder instability and dislocation

PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:35 pm
by nevertooold
It’s my leading shoulder!
The only time I’ve really slammed hard on it too! ffs

Yeah I’m going to take it easy - been playing around with curbs a bit so might stick with that for a while

Thanks

Re: Chronic shoulder instability and dislocation

PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:31 am
by warwick
You can get braces to stop your weak shoulder popping out. Sean Goff wears one, as does Jussi Korhonen.


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Re: Chronic shoulder instability and dislocation

PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:02 am
by nevertooold
warwick wrote:You can get braces to stop your weak shoulder popping out. Sean Goff wears one, as does Jussi Korhonen.


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Thanks to Amazon Prime one is now wending it’s way to me

Cheers

Re: Chronic shoulder instability and dislocation

PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:55 am
by Mark_81
Hope it does the trick, I'm pretty sure it will as I follow SG on IG & he's still shredding hard all the time all around the world. ~..

Re: Chronic shoulder instability and dislocation

PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:01 pm
by tom.hoffman
Shoulder problems are fairly common in skaters. I recall reading an interview in Thrasher of Colin Provost. He was at the point where if he rolled over wrong while sleeping his shoulder would pop out. There is a surgery for it. I

I fell wrong just once warming up one day, hyper-extended my shoulder, and it has never been 100% since. I never went to a doctor about it, and in retrospect I should have.

Re: Chronic shoulder instability and dislocation

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:09 am
by Mr J
Hi Nevertoold, yes I have had experience of this problem. I have been in both the situation where it has popped out and gone back in and also where a visit to A&E was needed to put it back in. If there are braces which can help prevent reoccurrence and still let you skate then that has got to be a good thing, although I have never tried them. I have seen some online instructions or taping up an unstable shoulder for sports such as rugby, but it looks totally impractical for regular skate sessions - needs a helper and many metres of tape!

The more permanent/best fix maybe be a combination of surgery and rehab - this is what I did and consider it worth it - I am sometimes hundreds of metres offshore surfing dealing with currents, so its particularly important that I don't experience it again. Building up strength in both the heavy duty muscles such as the deltoids and the small rotator cuff muscles does help stability - I am told this by a physiotherapist who looks after a Melbourne footy team. You will need to be shown how to exercise the rotator cuffs.

However, if the situation is what mine was - some of the "shoulder capsule" torn" then physio will reduce reoccurrence, but not stop it. Ligaments/tendons can be reattached to bone with surgery. However, it will need to be followed up with physio, because rotator cuff muscles have a habit of "going to sleep" after injury and need to be retrained to fire under reflexes properly.

I don't know what the current health service situation is in the UK and how easy it is to access it. Australia is not quite like the US where health insurance is needed for an decent level of care, but the Government does encourage us to take out health insurance (not cheap) with tax incentives. I'm prepared to pay for it largely because I can get sports injuries attended to quickly. This is the only reason I could go under the knife without a long wait for that sort of non life threatening thing.

Looking at things from a different viewpoint slamming with outstretched arms is risking this injury (and broken wrists). I remember watching pro Marc Johnson compete in the flat ground battle of the Berrics skate game and was particularly impressed where he could slide out of failed tricks on his back with his arms safely by his side. This is of course easier said than done and twice now I have done the right thing as I feel myself going into a slam - kept my leading arm by my side ... and bust my collarbone! The first incident also partially displaced my AC joint (and its still partially displaced, but doesn't really cause me problems). These latter two injuries are probably better than a dislocation - bone generally heals back fairly solid and has done in my situation. Sometimes there is no beating the slam demons!

Re: Chronic shoulder instability and dislocation

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:46 am
by nevertooold
Thanks MJ - appointment for specialist in 3 weeks so we will see what they say. I bought the shoulder brace which is ok - definitely allows me more confidence when skating

I’ll update
Cheers for all the tips

Re: Chronic shoulder instability and dislocation

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:52 am
by Plan9Customs
Dislocated my shoulder 9 days ago and according to the orthopedist he said there's not really a chance of it dislocating again since this was the first time. Still I'm stuck off board for almost 2 months or risking a 90%+ chance of dislocating it again if I slam on it before it's fully healed. What is the brace you guys were talking about? Might try it once I can move my arm w/o horrible pain just so I can at least cruise. It's my trailing arm. A dog chased my dog and hit me from behind onto my arm. Life huh? :roll:

Re: Chronic shoulder instability and dislocation

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:01 pm
by JimBin
Plan9Customs, that sounds painful. Hope your 2 months move fast!

Re: Chronic shoulder instability and dislocation

PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:09 pm
by SidcupSlam
Plan9Customs wrote:Dislocated my shoulder 9 days ago and according to the orthopedist he said there's not really a chance of it dislocating again since this was the first time. Still I'm stuck off board for almost 2 months or risking a 90%+ chance of dislocating it again if I slam on it before it's fully healed. What is the brace you guys were talking about? Might try it once I can move my arm w/o horrible pain just so I can at least cruise. It's my trailing arm. A dog chased my dog and hit me from behind onto my arm. Life huh? :roll:


Hi Plan9Customs, I notice you are still rolling after you dislocated your shoulder. I dislocated mine a couple of months ago but I’m in two minds whether to risk returning to skating for fear it will dislocate again. How has your experience been ? Has is dislocated again due to a slam?

Re: Chronic shoulder instability and dislocation

PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:31 am
by Plan9Customs
SidcupSlam wrote:
Plan9Customs wrote:Dislocated my shoulder 9 days ago and according to the orthopedist he said there's not really a chance of it dislocating again since this was the first time. Still I'm stuck off board for almost 2 months or risking a 90%+ chance of dislocating it again if I slam on it before it's fully healed. What is the brace you guys were talking about? Might try it once I can move my arm w/o horrible pain just so I can at least cruise. It's my trailing arm. A dog chased my dog and hit me from behind onto my arm. Life huh? :roll:


Hi Plan9Customs, I notice you are still rolling after you dislocated your shoulder. I dislocated mine a couple of months ago but I’m in two minds whether to risk returning to skating for fear it will dislocate again. How has your experience been ? Has is dislocated again due to a slam?


Sorry this is really late but i guess better than never?
So far ive slammed on it a few times(twice the same way I popped it out) and so far so good, fingers crossed. I kept doing the exercises they gave me during phys therapy just to make sure the muscles would help keep it in if I slammed on it again. If you want I can send you the list they gave me with the exercises. Hopefully things worked out for you.