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Jay Adams RIP

Postby vato kat » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:23 pm

http://www.tmz.com/2014/08/15/jay-adams ... wn-z-boys/

So long, original seed. Sad day for skateboarding.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby Sonic Pete » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:28 pm

Im devastated.. I cannot believe it. A very sad day for Skateboarding
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby K-ROC » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:28 pm

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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby SailorJerry » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:32 pm

A sad day indeed.........will be watching Dogtown and the Z Boys over the weekend

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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby pkripper » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:34 pm

Genuinely gutted... :cry:
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby TonyB » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:42 pm

Gutted. The two most stylish Z Boys gone in a month, both from heart failure.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby Bogey » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:55 pm

Very sad news. RIP
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby crawf » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:08 pm

To me, the DT thing was what it was all about. Jay was it all.
Met him in the islands when he was doing the ding thing.
40 years on summer vacation.
Fucking rad.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby crawf » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:20 pm

The truest words from the original seed,
"You dont quit skateboarding cause you get old, you get old cause you quit skateboarding."
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby j roach » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:50 pm

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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby misterbleepy » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:53 pm

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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby mrrobgee » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:05 pm

Cant believe the news heard it through the net RIP Zipper Head
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby flash » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:16 pm

Oh no for fuck sake , only just heard , I have cried tonight
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Postby SimonB » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:28 pm

Just seen this and cant believe it, especially so soon after Shogo passing away

Jay was a true pioneer and a big hero of mine back in the day ~ really gutted

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Postby Bullet » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:38 pm

Terrible news. I can imagine where his portrait is going to go:

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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby bertslide » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:56 pm

R.I.P.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby bazza5070 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:10 pm

Two of the originals gone so close together and far too yung. RIP brother, you will be missed by many :(
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby Fen » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:38 pm

Oh shit thats very sad news. RIP Jay
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby micke » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:45 pm

Sad indeed. Especially since he seemed to have pulled his shit together.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby RIppa » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:53 pm

Sad, sad, sad....

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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby HarryR » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:35 pm

bazza5070 wrote:Two of the originals gone so close together and far too yung. RIP brother, you will be missed by many :(

The similar circumstances of their passing is almost unbelievable. Jay had been a troubled soul and probably not universally liked but he did appear to be more humble in later life. RIP in the every sense of the word. I grabbed this image from the video. Kind of appropriate.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby vato kat » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:18 pm

Great photo.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby 606 » Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:29 am

RIP Jay

Here's a quote from Stacy Peralta that's in Thrasher "I received a text very early this morning from Alan Sarlo who is in Mexico on a surf trip with Jay and some others. In the text Alan said Jay had died of a massive heart attack at 1am this morning. Alan was apparently holding Jay in his arms as he passed. The news is and was devastating. Jay was the essence of skateboarding, 100% inside and outside, as pure a form of skateboarding as we may ever see. He was skateboarding incarnate. I spoke to Jim Muir as well as Steve Olson and a few other skaters this morning and Jay’s passing, as shocking and unexpected as it is, has reaffirmed in all of us our deep love and respect for each other as well as confirmed to us how we’re all connected. We’re all Zboys, we’re all skateboarders, we’re all a part of this tribe, rolling along together, now and forever. —Stacy Peralta"

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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby jon de la vibe » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:44 am

Sad news indeed.
A shaper and influence of not just attitudes within skating but in the wider world too! RIP Z-Dude.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby crawf » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:23 am

just been out for the dawn session, all alone at my local for some power carving and grinding for j boy.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby OldSkoolSkater » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:37 am

biggesst skateboard inspiration - Jay Boy: 100% skateboarder

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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby Mr J » Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:47 am

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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby Mike9000 » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:00 pm

RIP.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby TimWalker » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:01 pm

I was gonna keep quiet but I wouldn't be me if I did. Jay Adams is dead. He was never my 'hero'. He looked cool in skate pics when I was a kid, but I liked Jerry Valdez & Shogo Kubo more. By all accounts (including his own) Adams was a nasty (nazi) racist, homophobic,drug-dealing twat who tried to cajole his 'fans' into getting him out of his self-made financial shit several times. His racist queer-bashing led to someone's murder. I feel slightly sorry for someone who must have had a really shit upbringing to turn him into such a cunt, but I shall not mourn his passing, but hey-ho, he looked good in some pics in the 70's.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby Quit it Fool » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:53 pm

Re the last post, there's always fucking one isn't there
How about a bit of respect, you don't know who else is reading this post
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby Ben-G » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:55 pm

He wasn't really from my era of skating, but sad news nevertheless - it was obvious whatever his problems that he was 100% the real deal. a proper hardcore old dude. :(
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby jon de la vibe » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:36 pm

TimWalker wrote:I was gonna keep quiet but I wouldn't be me if I did. Jay Adams is dead. He was never my 'hero'. He looked cool in skate pics when I was a kid, but I liked Jerry Valdez & Shogo Kubo more. By all accounts (including his own) Adams was a nasty (nazi) racist, homophobic,drug-dealing twat who tried to cajole his 'fans' into getting him out of his self-made financial shit several times. His racist queer-bashing led to someone's murder. I feel slightly sorry for someone who must have had a really shit upbringing to turn him into such a cunt, but I shall not mourn his passing, but hey-ho, he looked good in some pics in the 70's.



With respect Tim….. He wasn’t particularly a hero of mine, however, this is about acknowledging the passing of Jay Adams the Skateboarder, not Jay Adams nasty (nazi) racist, homophobic,drug-dealing etc etc.

Perhaps that could be better debated on a thread about Jay Adams bashing.

Maybe I wouldn’t have got in to skating had it not been for lines of coincidence around that time in my life, the same lines that bind us together on here, the lines laid down by Jay Adams (skateboarder) and the rest of the west coast skaters/surfers at that time.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby flash » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:30 pm

Well fuck me gently ffs
Whatever you do in your life is the path you follow, good or bad, and you always pay one way or the other,
Lucky enough to have meet him and valdez, piercey, alva
We love them for what we saw , a skater
And they all are and were fuckin awesome
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Postby Booyah » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:51 pm

TimWalker wrote:I was gonna keep quiet but I wouldn't be me if I did. Jay Adams is dead. He was never my 'hero'. He looked cool in skate pics when I was a kid, but I liked Jerry Valdez & Shogo Kubo more. By all accounts (including his own) Adams was a nasty (nazi) racist, homophobic,drug-dealing twat who tried to cajole his 'fans' into getting him out of his self-made financial shit several times. His racist queer-bashing led to someone's murder. I feel slightly sorry for someone who must have had a really shit upbringing to turn him into such a cunt, but I shall not mourn his passing, but hey-ho, he looked good in some pics in the 70's.

Thanks for your opinion. I could not have said it better myself.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby Quit it Fool » Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:08 pm

wow!
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby flash » Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:50 pm

flash wrote:Well fuck me gently ffs
Whatever you do in your life is the path you follow, good or bad, and you always pay one way or the other,
Lucky enough to have meet him and valdez, piercey, alva
We love them for what we saw , a skater
And they all are and were fuckin awesome
Whatever you do off the board is your decision
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby Paul T » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:17 pm

What a shocka, RIP dude.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby TimWalker » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:12 pm

jon de la vibe wrote:
TimWalker wrote:I was gonna keep quiet but I wouldn't be me if I did. Jay Adams is dead. He was never my 'hero'. He looked cool in skate pics when I was a kid, but I liked Jerry Valdez & Shogo Kubo more. By all accounts (including his own) Adams was a nasty (nazi) racist, homophobic,drug-dealing twat who tried to cajole his 'fans' into getting him out of his self-made financial shit several times. His racist queer-bashing led to someone's murder. I feel slightly sorry for someone who must have had a really shit upbringing to turn him into such a cunt, but I shall not mourn his passing, but hey-ho, he looked good in some pics in the 70's.



With respect Tim….. He wasn’t particularly a hero of mine, however, this is about acknowledging the passing of Jay Adams the Skateboarder, not Jay Adams nasty (nazi) racist, homophobic,drug-dealing etc etc.

Perhaps that could be better debated on a thread about Jay Adams bashing.

Maybe I wouldn’t have got in to skating had it not been for lines of coincidence around that time in my life, the same lines that bind us together on here, the lines laid down by Jay Adams (skateboarder) and the rest of the west coast skaters/surfers at that time.
Just my opinion.
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I'm sorry but that makes no sense to me at all. It's one person, not two. Lets take it to its inevitable internet conclusion and ask if you'd forgive the extermination of the Jews and mourn the death of Hitler if he could pull a a few frontside airs?
Is Gator still a great guy in your book? That murder thing is neither here nor there because he could do some tricks, right?

I get on with load of skaters, but not regardless of what they are really like as people. If they're out to deliberately destroy other people's lives because they're black or gay, I'm not gonna call them friend.
Yes I think of many skaters as my brothers, but I also think of some black and gay people as my brothers, because I'm not into weird, unintelligent discrimination and blinkered tribalism.

I do hope Jay made some amends in later life...not just saying, "I like Jesus now, can you let me off?", but I've seen no evidence of such.

Yes I know he had a shit time in his youth, hence I feel slightly sorry for him, but I went to school with two guys who had a similarly shit time and ended up as violent drug dealers, yet now both of them work full time with under privileged children and do great work for the community. As far as I know, all Jay did was say "I've turned to Jesus, pay off my tax bill cos I was gnarly"


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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby crawf » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:19 pm

nobodys perfect.
we are skaters not judges.
he was fuckin rad and skatings what it is today because of him and the other early dudes.
what a lot of judgmental bollocks.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby crawf » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:26 pm

you sound like les fuckin dawson gobshiting over the fence wearing his curlers.
eee, do you know what that naughty jay adams got up to?
i heard he was one of those there nazi thingys.....

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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby TimWalker » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:28 pm

Insane.

If you have a kid who grows up to be gay then gets beaten to death by some homophobe, you're gonna say it's fine if he can do a gnarly slash grind then eh?

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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby Bustabloodklaaart » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:40 pm

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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby Quit it Fool » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:50 pm

with regard the Nazi thing, dig around on the Juice site and you'll find an interview with Jay from about 12 years ago. When challenged on that whole thing, he said it was all about terrorising people on the waves etc extreme localism blah, blah, blah. I don't think any of them gave a minutes thought to the holocaust etc, there'd be absolutely no connection! The swastika on the boards was a shock thing. I'd imagine we'd all feel a bit sheepish over statements we made in our youth, especially with the majority of us coming from the generation that delighted in pissing off our peers etc I remember seeing footage of Duane Peters at a comp that was televised, with bleached hair and a swastika dyed into the side of his head, and before anyone screams "and look what's happened to him!" I think that whole image was "of it's time" and certain individuals are dining out on it still.
I don't believe for a second any of them were doing it to show any sort of alliance to racism/homophobia, quite the opposite. I mean look at the areas they grew up, you wouldn't last a minute! The fantastic thing about skating is that it draws from all walks of life, nobody cares about where your from, it's where your at and how you carry yoursef
I honestly think they all got a bit embarrassed by it all in later years, maturity I 'spose.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby j roach » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:30 pm

You forgive the person, not the act. It seemed like he was remorseful and trying to be a better man, how the fuck can we truly know if we're not in his head?

I don't idolise Jay Adams unlike my 19 year old housemate (which shows his impact on skating) and in many ways his life was tragic. To me he always represented a beautiful mind and talent torn apart by his inner demons, or whatever cliched fucking phrase you want to insert. No, not a role model, not even a likeable man in many ways and to many people. What saddens me is that the beautiful mind within never got the chance to win.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby j roach » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:31 pm

And for fucks sake, please leave Hitler out of it.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby micke » Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:08 pm

Interesting info in this thread. I have no opinion in the Jay Adams matter. I'm sure life gave him a bad deal and that he was a rad and beautiful skater.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby camo pete » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:07 pm

I believe he did a lot of work with kids in schools in later life,trying to steer them away from drugs and the path he went down.He made some serious mistakes growing up and he paid the price.As far as I am aware,he came to realise that he had fucked up and tried to be a better person.I am sure that if he managed to make one kid think about what they were doing and the consequences,he deserves some respect.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby flash » Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:08 pm

N fuck u 2

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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby Ben » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:20 am

I think its worth defining what most people want to celebrate about Jay Adams life. It was his talent, devil may care attitude on a board and innovation that was so unquestionably exceptional. He skated and surfed in a way that only a few of our generation could comprehend and follow. For this I am grateful and in awe.

Of course like everyone else on here I did not know him personally.From what I have read and seen he had a lot of weaknesses and shortcomings. Pointless me celebrating Jay Adams the man but the athlete is another story.

Beware the idolisation of hero's especially those from the early stages of 'extreme sports'. They generally were man/boys with a could n't give a shit attitude , athletic ability and unfettered imagination. Great subjects for photos but probably not someone you would want to marry your sister. :lol:

http://encyclopediaofsurfing.com/entries/dora-mickey

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/athletes/andy-irons/Crashing-Down.html

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/oct/28/features.sport9

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/tas-pappas-skateboarding-fame-money-jail-and-tragedy-9644676.html

http://www.theinertia.com/surf/tom-carroll-comes-clean-about-drug-addiction/ I could go on :rol
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby jon de la vibe » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:26 am

TimWalker wrote:
jon de la vibe wrote:
With respect Tim….. He wasn’t particularly a hero of mine, however, this is about acknowledging the passing of Jay Adams the Skateboarder, not Jay Adams nasty (nazi) racist, homophobic,drug-dealing etc etc.

Perhaps that could be better debated on a thread about Jay Adams bashing.

Maybe I wouldn’t have got in to skating had it not been for lines of coincidence around that time in my life, the same lines that bind us together on here, the lines laid down by Jay Adams (skateboarder) and the rest of the west coast skaters/surfers at that time.
Just my opinion.
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I'm sorry but that makes no sense to me at all. It's one person, not two. Lets take it to its inevitable internet conclusion and ask if you'd forgive the extermination of the Jews and mourn the death of Hitler if he could pull a a few frontside airs?
Is Gator still a great guy in your book? That murder thing is neither here nor there because he could do some tricks, right?

I get on with load of skaters, but not regardless of what they are really like as people. If they're out to deliberately destroy other people's lives because they're black or gay, I'm not gonna call them friend.
Yes I think of many skaters as my brothers, but I also think of some black and gay people as my brothers, because I'm not into weird, unintelligent discrimination and blinkered tribalism.

I do hope Jay made some amends in later life...not just saying, "I like Jesus now, can you let me off?", but I've seen no evidence of such.

Yes I know he had a shit time in his youth, hence I feel slightly sorry for him, but I went to school with two guys who had a similarly shit time and ended up as violent drug dealers, yet now both of them work full time with under privileged children and do great work for the community. As far as I know, all Jay did was say "I've turned to Jesus, pay off my tax bill cos I was gnarly"

Feel free to correct me with evidence if I've got any of this wrong.


Evidence.... is this a trial?

Am I labouring under the illusion that this was about the passing of a bit of our /my youth? Maybe even some nostalgic memories of a great skateboarder from WHEN WE WAS YOUNG?

As I've already said, Jay Adams's misdemeanours might be better debated on a seperate thread. Hitler, Gator, frontside airs and extermination of the Jews .....Discuss.

" not into weird, unintelligent discrimination and blinkered tribalism". Funnily enough neither am I. We dont need lecturing on it ...... thought for a minute there I was back at school with mi trousers round mi ankles.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby Ben » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:32 am

jon de la vibe wrote: ...... thought for a minute there I was back at school with mi trousers round mi ankles.


My parents could n't afford the fees for that type of school. :wink:
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby OldSkoolSkater » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:46 am

I can't judge Jay for good or bad as a person, cause I didn't know/ met him in real... but like it's said only god can judge him.
But in my eyes he's on board a milestone in skateboarding and brings it a life... so much respect for that
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby fogiezboy » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:48 am

RIP Jayboy............
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby fogiezboy » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:54 am

I was in contact with Jay in the last couple of years getting stuff signed and he was a gentleman, ok he had a past when he was young but that was well behind him, I dont want to be hearing shite on here about the most influencial skater ever, take your vile crap elsewhere you bitter losers.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby Mr J » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:05 pm

Ben wrote:..
Beware the idolisation of hero's especially those from the early stages of 'extreme sports'. They generally were man/boys with a could n't give a shit attitude , athletic ability and unfettered imagination. Great subjects for photos but probably not someone you would want to marry your sister. :lol:

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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby jon de la vibe » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:07 pm

Ben wrote:
jon de la vibe wrote: ...... thought for a minute there I was back at school with mi trousers round mi ankles.


My parents could n't afford the fees for that type of school. :wink:


:lol: Ah well ya didn't miss much.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby Jimbo » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:15 pm

fogiezboy wrote:I was in contact with Jay in the last couple of years getting stuff signed and he was a gentleman, ok he had a past when he was young but that was well behind him, I dont want to be hearing shite on here about the most influencial skater ever, take your vile crap elsewhere you bitter losers.


Once again showing your ignorance, if it wasn't for Tim you wouldn't be hearing anything on here as the site wouldn't exist. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, especially you it would seem judging by your past posts. For a second there I almost felt like baiting you about this subject in the same way that you baited others on your childish teachers thread but realised that would make me as big a cunt as you.
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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby BOOMERDOG » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:41 pm

Rip jayboy....thanks for the stoke

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Re: Jay Adams RIP

Postby Brian S » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:52 pm

Ooh I do like a bit of handbags on here, immaturity & stupidity knows no age barriers, love it, we all have differing opinions just live with it & skate people! :lol: :lol:


Jay Adams was one of the skaters who featured in Skateboarder magazine (very well thumbed as only one well out of date copy between the lot of us :lol: ) who inspired us when we were kids tootling about on the streets, skating pools & parks in California a small window into another world way beyond our reach, a world away from our shitty little place, no facilities whatsoever & generally unpredictable rubbish weather for skating, a lot of good skaters were not very nice people (just like in the real world), just big headed competitive privileged shits, some of which screwed it up big time because they were fuckwit idiots & not just the US one's but some here as well, so for me It's those early skate memories that have been invoked with this news, 53 way too young, I wouldn't wish death on anyone whatever their past, Maybe he was a better person recently but that doesn't absolve any wrong doings & stupidity of the past, but at least shows he might not have been a dick any more, hopefully. :D
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