Help needed with frontside kickturns

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Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby Jimbo » Thu May 22, 2014 1:37 pm

Admittedly I avoid anything frontside like the plague but I could really do with some help/critique on my abysmal attempts at frontside kicturns. I had Leyland Warehouse to myself for a few hours today so thought I'd try and get them sorted but to no avail - see video :( (the bulk of the frontside attempts are after I've fallen off for the first time about half way through the vid)

Please help - I won't be offended, what am I doing wrong? I don't get why they look so rigid and weird.

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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby j roach » Thu May 22, 2014 3:13 pm

To be honest they don't look half bad, certainly compared to my attempts. No expert, but backside your body/board move together so your shoulders are staying in line with your deck more or less, frontside you're rotating and then turning the board to catch up a little more. Backside you pump into the turn more as well which perhaps gives you better/more natural momentum to actually get around?

It looks like you have them and just need to keep going until you relax a little more. Realised I was both over-rotating and tensing up on fronstside carves and adjusting that, relaxing a bit and bending my bloody knees has really helped. My kicks still suck so I'll soak up any advice as well :)
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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby bazza5070 » Thu May 22, 2014 3:25 pm

As above basically, it appears that you are landing the board before you've done much of a rotation with your upper body if that makes sense. Think you just need to relax a bit more and they will come cos they aint that bad now! :)

If its any consolation I have exactly the same problem with backside kickturns - see previous thread

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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby richardmanchester » Thu May 22, 2014 5:50 pm

Nothing wrong with them just loosen up and practise
They will look better if you take the turn slightly angled across the ramp then u only need to turn about 140• so will get smoother not many can do solid 180 frontside turns
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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby K-ROC » Thu May 22, 2014 6:10 pm

The best advise I heard was on the forum somewhere a fair few months ago, and that was to turn your body as though you are trying to piss on the front of your deck. Seems to work.
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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby Brian S » Thu May 22, 2014 6:19 pm

Nothing wrong with those, just need to practice & relax with them a bit more, Frontsides are a little more awkward than backside though, requiring a bit more commitment generally :D
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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby j roach » Thu May 22, 2014 7:09 pm

Corker wrote:The best advise I heard was on the forum somewhere a fair few months ago, and that was to turn your body as though you are trying to piss on the front of your deck. Seems to work.


Yeah, that was gold for me as far as carving frontside, being daft I hadn't thought of it that way with a kickturn.
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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby Skinnychris » Thu May 22, 2014 7:29 pm

They look great mate! Just hope at my next session I can get something like those!!

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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby Jimbo » Thu May 22, 2014 8:24 pm

Cheers for the comments chaps, guess it's just a case of that good old practice malarkey. I wish Woody sold skill in his shop, it would make this skating malarkey a lot easier :D
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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby Jimbo » Thu May 22, 2014 8:25 pm

Corker wrote:The best advise I heard was on the forum somewhere a fair few months ago, and that was to turn your body as though you are trying to piss on the front of your deck.


With anything frontside I've usually pissed down my leg long before I I even get to turning.
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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby Nut » Thu May 22, 2014 10:59 pm

yeah, as above - carve a little bit more and loosen up. One notch more on your speed and you're there.

Maybe try your setups as close to one side as possible, big choice of angles to approach your fs with fewer worries about the exit angle.
Anyway, don;t know if I explained that right, use the whole ramp basically.
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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby Pearce » Fri May 23, 2014 8:48 am

Go faster , your going into it slowwwww and to cautious , keep the speed up and loosen up

Best advice , think fuck it !!! Imo


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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby HarryR » Fri May 23, 2014 8:50 pm

richardmanchester wrote:Nothing wrong with them just loosen up and practise
They will look better if you take the turn slightly angled across the ramp then u only need to turn about 140• so will get smoother not many can do solid 180 frontside turns
That prob makes no sense show u next session

This ^^^

Plus, don't be afraid of leaning back a bit more, even though it might feel like your body is moving away from the board, as you complete the turn the board will come back under you. The higher/steeper the the transition the more exaggerated this can be.
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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby Lofat » Fri May 23, 2014 10:16 pm

What they said, maybe think of it more as a manual than a kick turn, plus bend zee knees, gets you more in a sit back position 8)
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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby Biffa » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:38 pm

Really good idea of you to put the clip up.... you seem to be doing fine. If you'd like to smooth them out a bit, then just relax more and try to lead by twisting of your upper body, that will take care of any rotational issues.
I personally like to visualise chasing unicorns (which fly through the air leaving a trail of rainbow-coloured sparkles to guide me) whenever I skate transition, but each to his own.
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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby micke » Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:45 pm

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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby camo pete » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:00 pm

Look over your shoulder to where you want to go,everything else will follow.
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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby Bustabloodklaaart » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:40 pm

camo pete wrote:Look over your shoulder to where you want to go,everything else will follow.


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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby bazza5070 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:58 pm

camo pete wrote:Look over your shoulder to where you want to go,everything else will follow.

I want to go to Disneyland, will this technique work for me? :-)


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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby micke » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:50 pm

WTF do you want from Disneyland?
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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby bazza5070 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:53 am

Dreams Micke boy, dreams.... And perhaps a mermaid or two :-)


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Re: Help needed with frontside kickturns

Postby #skatedog » Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:28 pm

Man.... I would be well happy with that, I would be on the ramp all day lol
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