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Help with lipslides on a mini ramp

Postby abuck » Fri Sep 09, 2016 3:01 am

Hello!
I finally got the board to actually slide, and now what I thought would be the easy part (dropping back in), is turning out to be the hard part. From watching the video, I don't seem to be getting the board all the way around on re-entry. Any advice for foot placement or anything like that? Thanks in advance!

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Re: Help with lipslides on a mini ramp

Postby pete » Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:00 pm

its your shoulders, your only able to turn the board to 90 degree's cos that's where your shoulders are. turn them 180 degree's and you'll be good to go :)

Looking good though, I've only ever done them on small quarters, never tried them in a ramp although you've inspired me 8)
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Re: Help with lipslides on a mini ramp

Postby warwick » Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:56 pm

Looking good - though a lip slide is something different (frontside 180 to boardslide disaster).
Try doing it the other way: you're focussing on the slide and not making the re-entry. Try mastering the re-entry first and then adding the slide - which is to say, do a regular rock & roll first. Then go up at an angle and do a rock & roll. Then push it a little harder and try to get the board to slide an inch or so before you go back in.

And as Pete says, turn your shoulders more.

That's how I learned them. There's a slow-motion board slide in this video:

https://youtu.be/NQAjtmrlU-Y
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Re: Help with lipslides on a mini ramp

Postby Brian S » Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:07 pm

abuck wrote:Hello!
I finally got the board to actually slide, and now what I thought would be the easy part (dropping back in), is turning out to be the hard part. From watching the video, I don't seem to be getting the board all the way around on re-entry. Any advice for foot placement or anything like that? Thanks in advance!



In the old days we would have called that a rock n roll boardslide just to confuse matters, I have noticed a lot of tricks have been renamed in more recent times, no idea why
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Help with lipslides on a mini ramp

Postby warwick » Fri Sep 09, 2016 3:09 pm

I'd still call it a rock n roll boardslide. A lipslide is a frontside trick


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Re: Help with lipslides on a mini ramp

Postby abuck » Fri Sep 09, 2016 3:46 pm

That's what I get for trying to sound like I'm up to date on things. Honestly, inclination is to call it a "rail slide" because I'm sliding on the rails of the board, but rock'n'roll boardslide it is.
This morning I practiced regular backside rock'n'rolls and could feel where my shoulders have to be. still couldn't nail a RnR BS, though. Warwick, I will try your progression (angle, inch, slide) and hopefully post some progression.
Thanks, dudes!
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Re: Help with lipslides on a mini ramp

Postby vato kat » Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:09 pm

I'd also say the shoulders thing. And this may be personal preference an'all, but maybe your front foot could be a little further back?

Can you do them to fakie?
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Re: Help with lipslides on a mini ramp

Postby warwick » Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:34 pm

It's a very unstable-feeling trick while you're learning. Then it just 'clicks'


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Re: Help with lipslides on a mini ramp

Postby vato kat » Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:00 pm

I found the hardest thing to be keeping your weight over the centre of the board. Still haven't got them fully sussed yet...I'd like to still be sliding when I turn back in.
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Help with lipslides on a mini ramp

Postby warwick » Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:06 pm

The big secret: rails
They make this trick better, faster and much more stable. See Jeff Grosso sliding round the entire circumference of a pool using rails
I only really learnt to do this when I went back to using rails on my board after about 20 years without them
I got Pig rails because they're the ones Grosso uses. One modification: I use double-sided tape as well as screws to fix them on.

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Re: Help with lipslides on a mini ramp

Postby abuck » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:28 pm

I can not do a board slide to fakie, which is weird because I have rock fakies wired. It just feels a little out of control coming in from the board slide. The good news is I am using rails and I agree they totally help with the slide.

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Re: Help with lipslides on a mini ramp

Postby warwick » Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:03 pm

Boardslide to fakie is hard. To slide, you have to be going at the coping at an angle, which is great to continue into a rock n roll. But to get it back into a fakie you have to somehow get your body weight back straight again


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Re: Help with lipslides on a mini ramp

Postby skov » Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:46 pm

I find board slide to fakie much easier than board slide to rock and roll.
I've always been terrible at rock and rolls though...
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Re: Help with lipslides on a mini ramp

Postby abuck » Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:38 pm

Warwick, great advice! I got them and your progression made it possible. I videoed it for proof.

phase 1: Backside RnR's
phase 2: Doing them at an angle
phase 3: Adding an inch of slide
phase 4: Adding more slide (I'm getting there)



Thank you so much. Seriously, you should break down more tricks like this.
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Re: Help with lipslides on a mini ramp

Postby warwick » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:26 pm

Magic! Now they'll just get better and better. It's one of the most satisfying tricks to master.


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