Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

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Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby golfisnaff » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:43 am

Hi guys,

I like to ride really tight trucks. Problem I'm finding is that using super hard 100D bushings and firmly tightening (not crazy tight) results in stiff riding for a while, but then the bushings compress and eventually blow out.

I've tried these Doh Dohs http://www.skaterhq.com.au/doh-doh-bush ... -100d.html
and the dual-hardness Bones Hardcores.

Anyone found a solution, other than changing bushings every few hours?

Indy 149s on an 8" board, if that matters much.

Cheers team.
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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby Hagwag » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:55 am

Try purple Khiros with barrel shape on the bottom

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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby golfisnaff » Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:33 am

Cheers, will do.
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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby TonyB » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:00 am

Learn to ride loose trucks.
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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby GarethV » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:08 am

TonyB wrote:Learn to ride loose trucks.



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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby TonyB » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:16 am

Well who rides super tight trucks these days and likes them? Unless you are vert riding you will need to turn.

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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby Ben-G » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:27 am

6 months ago just starting again I liked the reassurance of tight trucks, but now I am very much a convert to riding them loose. I still use bones hard bushings as I am heavy, but really like being able to carve now. I like the top of the kingpin nut to sit level with the top of the kingpin.
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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby GarethV » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:36 am

Hopokus wrote:6 months ago just starting again I liked the reassurance of tight trucks, but now I am very much a convert to riding them loose. I still use bones hard bushings as I am heavy, but really like being able to carve now. I like the top of the kingpin nut to sit level with the top of the kingpin.



Another vote for loose from Ben. I must confess I rode my trucks pretty tight when I first got back in to it and had no balance. However I would never of left them tight unless I only skated vert. Even so I do not think I was ever that extreme as you sound.

So perhaps skate more , get a better control of the board and perhaps loosen those truck slightly. Carving is awesome fun you are really missing out.

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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby Brian S » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:16 pm

TonyB wrote:Well who rides super tight trucks these days and likes them? Unless you are vert riding you will need to turn.

Loose trucks save lives



You still need turn on vert, we used to ride trucks so loose in the early 80's they rattled & occasionally the truck nuts came off mid air, oop's, not quite as wild now, but as you progress you seem to be able to loosen your trucks a fair bit, as it can get you out of sticky situations sometimes, you can't get around a corner with tight trucks :lol:
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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby andre » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:17 pm

eh, i went from tight (early days) to loose (about a year in), to tight again. depends a lot on what you're skating, how fast you're going, &c. experiment if you want, then ride 'em as loose or tight as you like.
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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby marki3boy » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:54 pm

Loosen your trucks and bend your knees.
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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby flash » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:17 pm

marki3boy wrote:Loosen your trucks and bend your knees.
Best advice I ever heard.


Great blog mark, some cool places there,nice one :D
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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby shindigz » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:14 pm

golfisnaff wrote:Hi guys,

I like to ride really tight trucks. Problem I'm finding is that using super hard 100D bushings and firmly tightening (not crazy tight) results in stiff riding for a while, but then the bushings compress and eventually blow out.

I've tried these Doh Dohs http://www.skaterhq.com.au/doh-doh-bush ... -100d.html
and the dual-hardness Bones Hardcores.

Anyone found a solution, other than changing bushings every few hours?

Indy 149s on an 8" board, if that matters much.

Cheers team.


I'm a bit late to the party here I know, but I had the same problems until I got my Navigator trucks about 10 years ago (the first of my skateboard ressurections). I kept blowing out the bushings too, even hard ones, as they all seemed to not turn at all, then just splodge out the side once I went past the critcal turning point. When I got the trucks I found that the standard (med-hard) bushings were great if I added a second bushing cup to both the baseplate seat, and another under the kingpin head. I found it allowed me to tighten the bushings more without closing the hangar up too much, therefore keeping the angles of the hardware 'flatter', which seemed to even out the pressure around the bushings and spead distribution of the squeezy stress better.

Dunno if that makes any sense? :P

Edit: Thought I'd just add that I've not had to adjust the kingpin since I set them up all those years ago. It's barely been skated (the odd weekend each summer), but the bushings still feel awesome, and haven't got that all-or-nothing feel that they can sometimes get when cranked down hard. Now that I've been skating more often however, I find them to be a bit too tight if anything, but can't find the right sized hex key to loosen them a bit. :roll:
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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby GoR64 » Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:26 pm

Give Theeves a try... After my Ace's they feel completely solid!
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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby BMCsteve » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:36 pm

I skate Theeve TiKing's with Bone hard bushings. You get a very tight controlled turn. I find tighter trucks give me better pop and more control over flip tricks but I also skate mostly street
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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby tom.hoffman » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:42 pm

You can get stimulator/eliminator shaped bushings for the bottom, which basically have an extra ring of urethane that gets pinched between the bushing seat in the hanger and a cupped bottom washer.
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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby Lone freestyler » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:12 pm

Change to Ace - nice and turny at low speed and stable at velocity.
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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby Red Beard » Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:57 pm

:X) to hijack the thread a bit but is it worthwhile going for harder bushings and looser trucks, rather than going too tight on standard bushings? Not been back on a board long and trying to keep my trucks loose enough for a bit of turn (ready for carving hopefully!) but tight enough to try and dodge too much speed wobble for now.
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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby TonyB » Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:19 pm

Are you getting speed wobble Red Beard? IMO truck bushes should never be crushed tight, if they are too soft they always will be no matter how tight you make the KP nut. Go up a bit in durometer but keep the kingpin as loose as you can.

Check the fit of the hanger pivot in the pivot bushing, if it's sloppy change the pivot bush.
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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby Red Beard » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:32 am

TonyB wrote:Are you getting speed wobble Red Beard? IMO truck bushes should never be crushed tight, if they are too soft they always will be no matter how tight you make the KP nut. Go up a bit in durometer but keep the kingpin as loose as you can.

Check the fit of the hanger pivot in the pivot bushing, if it's sloppy change the pivot bush.


Yeah, definite speed wobble but my cruiser is on Bennett trucks and I know they're supposed to turn well so I don't want to ruin that side of things. I tightened the kingpin nuts a bit when I first got it then realised it didn't really turn as much so loosened them a touch again, will check how the bushings look later on.

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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby TonyB » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:26 pm

Bennetts are not a speed truck as you know, they will always be very turny. You can adjust the turn with the use of different bushes and although the stock ones aren't bad there are longboard bushes like Venom and Reflex that will open up a whole minefield of possibilities for you, where you might be able to tighten them up but still retain turning ability as these other bushes have much more rebound. Due to the geometry on a Bennett your never going to turn that in to a stable speed truck it is what it is. I think that you will have to get used to how they work and feel.
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Re: Setting up tight trucks... and keeping them that way

Postby Red Beard » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:29 pm

TonyB wrote:Bennetts are not a speed truck as you know, they will always be very turny. You can adjust the turn with the use of different bushes and although the stock ones aren't bad there are longboard bushes like Venom and Reflex that will open up a whole minefield of possibilities for you, where you might be able to tighten them up but still retain turning ability as these other bushes have much more rebound. Due to the geometry on a Bennett your never going to turn that in to a stable speed truck it is what it is. I think that you will have to get used to how they work and feel.


You're probably right that it may be best to just keep on til I get used to how the trucks ride properly and go from there. I loosened them off about a turn earlier so will see how they feel next time I go out on the board and carry on tweaking from there, may look into some after market bushings as well at some point.
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