Breathing life into the old beast / 1992 restoration

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Breathing life into the old beast / 1992 restoration

Postby Andrew_Culture » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:36 pm

Recently I've been loving my big pool board with wide trucks and Kyptronics. The trucks have medium bushings and carve up a treat.

But I'm hell bent on getting better on the half pipe so want nice stiff trucks. No matter how hard I crank the medium bushings they're still squidgy. So I've decided to set up a new board, because, well, N+1 and all that.

I want to use the skateboard I've owned the longest. I bought this as a complete off a friend for £20 in about 1992. It's a mini-ramp deck and is much too short for me to skate comfortably. The deck is also pretty delaminated.

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I can't see anything actually wrong with the Independent trucks other than a bit of discolouration. The bushings are a bit knackered, but some Bones Hardcore bushings (hard) should see the trucks right. The trucks are 210mm wide from nut to nut. Is that how trucks are measured?

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The bearings are shot, but I'll happily replace them with some Bronson G3 Speed Bearings. The wheels are... I think they're okay actually! The bear a few scars from the shitty roads where I grew up but they're not actually terribly worn. I was going to buy some blue or green Kryptonics Star Tracs so I've got someone a bit grippier for skating wood, but if these wheels are serviceable I'd rather save a few quid.

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So this brings me to the deck. It would appear that the Santa Cruz decks I lusted after as a teenager are now selling for £300 on ebay! I'm after an old shape with a decent concave and a bit of a nose. I quite like the look of the creature decks but I'm not keen on the graphics. My local skateshop does an own-brand 8.625" pool bomber for £45 but it still doesn't quite scratch my itch.

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Re: Breathing life into the old beast / 1992 restoration

Postby mjlally » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:42 pm

not sure stiff trucks will be better on a regular half pipe but there are lots on here will know better than me whether that is correct or not. Maybe on vert they should be tighter?
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Re: Breathing life into the old beast / 1992 restoration

Postby Andrew_Culture » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:44 pm

mjlally wrote:not sure stiff trucks will be better on a regular half pipe but there are lots on here will know better than me whether that is correct or not. Maybe on vert they should be tighter?


The change is mostly to force me to learn to kick turn properly. I instinctively carve rather than actually neatly going straight up the trans and then straight down, so lose a ton of speed and it's hugely impacting my ability to get where I want to be :)
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Re: Breathing life into the old beast / 1992 restoration

Postby fftc » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:41 pm

I've just been looking for a longer wheelbase deck and these were the ones that made the shortlist. Don't know if any of them hold any interest?

https://www.rollersnakes.co.uk/krooked- ... range-9-56
https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/skat ... 9-5-p26034
https://www.reiversports.co.uk/shop/ite ... hape-9-75/
http://www.blacksheepstore.co.uk/anti-h ... e-9-1.html

Also quite a selection here. http://www.conflictskates.co.uk/all-mod ... -248-c.asp

I bought the Krooked Gonz which has just arrived and it looks awesome. Nice and big!

Regarding the wheels. I'm not claiming to be the worlds expert or anything, but I would suspect that the urethane used in 30 year old wheels would degrade over time much the same as truck bushes do. It might be harder to tell, but I'd guess those wheels aren't what they once were. FWIW I've got green Star-Tracs on my longboard and am really happy with them. Just a thought.
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Re: Breathing life into the old beast / 1992 restoration

Postby Andrew_Culture » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:01 pm

fftc wrote:I've just been looking for a longer wheelbase deck and these were the ones that made the shortlist. Don't know if any of them hold any interest?

https://www.rollersnakes.co.uk/krooked- ... range-9-56
https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/skat ... 9-5-p26034
https://www.reiversports.co.uk/shop/ite ... hape-9-75/
http://www.blacksheepstore.co.uk/anti-h ... e-9-1.html

Also quite a selection here. http://www.conflictskates.co.uk/all-mod ... -248-c.asp

I bought the Krooked Gonz which has just arrived and it looks awesome. Nice and big!

Regarding the wheels. I'm not claiming to be the worlds expert or anything, but I would suspect that the urethane used in 30 year old wheels would degrade over time much the same as truck bushes do. It might be harder to tell, but I'd guess those wheels aren't what they once were. FWIW I've got green Star-Tracs on my longboard and am really happy with them. Just a thought.


Thanks for this, I shall hide my wallet then take a look at the links :)

What about nos wheels? Wouldn't they also harden? Good point though. Plus star trac rock :)
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Re: Breathing life into the old beast / 1992 restoration

Postby warwick » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:24 pm

I like tight trucks on ramps. I like to feel that when I come back down fakie I’m going to go in a straight line rather than wobble.

In terms of trucks I’d get new Indies rather than using the old ones. If you do axle stalls or 50:50s the kingpin sometimes catches on the older models


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Re: Breathing life into the old beast / 1992 restoration

Postby Andrew_Culture » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:49 pm

warwick wrote:I like tight trucks on ramps. I like to feel that when I come back down fakie I’m going to go in a straight line rather than wobble.

In terms of trucks I’d get new Indies rather than using the old ones. If you do axle stalls or 50:50s the kingpin sometimes catches on the older models


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Thanks. So far I'm looking at £75 for a deck, £30 for some wheels, £30 for some bearings and £15 for some bushings so I might as well replace the trucks as well :)
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Re: Breathing life into the old beast / 1992 restoration

Postby Mark_81 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:17 pm

Andrew_Culture wrote:
The bearings are shot, but I'll happily replace them with some Bronson G3 Speed Bearings. The wheels are... I think they're okay actually! The bear a few scars from the shitty roads where I grew up but they're not actually terribly worn. I was going to buy some blue or green Kryptonics Star Tracs so I've got someone a bit grippier for skating wood, but if these wheels are serviceable I'd rather save a few quid.

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Hi Mate,

I have some Star Tracs Blue 55mm & Bronson G3 bearings - Used but in good condition, even have the original packaging for the bearings. £30 posted - let me know if this helps.

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Re: Breathing life into the old beast / 1992 restoration

Postby Andrew_Culture » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:43 pm

Mark_81 wrote:
Andrew_Culture wrote:
The bearings are shot, but I'll happily replace them with some Bronson G3 Speed Bearings. The wheels are... I think they're okay actually! The bear a few scars from the shitty roads where I grew up but they're not actually terribly worn. I was going to buy some blue or green Kryptonics Star Tracs so I've got someone a bit grippier for skating wood, but if these wheels are serviceable I'd rather save a few quid.

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Hi Mate,

I have some Star Tracs Blue 55mm & Bronson G3 bearings - Used but in good condition, even have the original packaging for the bearings. £30 posted - let me know if this helps.

Happy shredding.


It helps a lot, gimmie gimmie! I'm rocking 60mm Star Tracs on my other board, but this is still a massive leap forward!
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Re: Breathing life into the old beast / 1992 restoration

Postby Andrew_Culture » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:32 am

I ended up giving the deck to a friend who has cleaned it up a treat!
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