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I kinda figured.


Dave, Dave, Tell him Dave.

He's being mean again :cry:


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Overseer wrote:shiner are sending two stage 8 139 hangers gratis :)

they arrived at ape 24 hours later.. nice one shiner.

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Post Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:17 pm

OK Mods, time to lock this thread.

I was in a meeting with an Engineer from NMB today, we were discussing some bearings I'm using at work. Got the conversation around to skate bearings, turns out Me an Joolz were right :lol:

(As if I'd post anything if we were wrong :roll: )

I told him of our Yankee friend's claims, my how he laughed.

Anyway, a little anecdote.

When NMB check their bearings, they run them on a machine to see how much noisy they are, they can work out if they are in tolerance (correct ABEC rating) by the amount of noise they make. The ones that don't make the grade are disposed of.
They scrappers started dissapearing from the skip so they had an investigation, called the police. Turns out a couple of young scally-wags we're hopping over the fence, liberating the bearings and flogging them down the skatepark for 50p a pop. When the Plant Manager found out, the Police asked him what he wanted to do. The guy says "Give them a job, the idiots that work for me can only get 32p each for them" :lol:


Here's a conspiracy theory for you. 608 zz's cost NMB 22p to make (according to NMB guy today). They sell the scrappers for 32p. We pay about a quid for an NMB in the shops, shops pay a supplier about 50p? 8)

Now I'm not suggesting that an out of tolerance bearing would be unsuitable for use in a skateboard/roller skate/roller blade...
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Happy Xmas Bearing Thread! :D
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I like Rock Star bearing.
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I remember discussing the same with SKF rep some time ago. Interesting stuff none the less.

Who was asking about lab seals? Worth every penny if on one side you have a fluid you try and keep cool against a temperature that would cook it out.
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Post Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:38 pm

bearings

bones reds their the set under the bones swiss ceramics, they are fast as fuck and only around £15 they are good for speeds upto and over 40mph i have tried allsorts and have found these to be the best mate.
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Re: bearings

rosco wrote:bones reds their the set under the bones swiss ceramics, they are fast as fuck and only around £15 they are good for speeds upto and over 40mph i have tried allsorts and have found these to be the best mate.


kak interesnat - how did you measure these over 40mph?
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Happy New Year Bearing Thread..... :twisted:

Ever wondered how they actually make the bloody things? (apart from the geeks who already know everything :twisted: )

ENJOY

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^^^

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No, they are making them not disassembling them and reassembling them.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^ OOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! :D :D :D :D
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I have created a 3D PDF of a SKF 608 2RS (seals removed)

I know you will all appreciate this generous gesture.

DONT CLICK THE LINK IF YOU HAVE A SLOOOOW CONECTION (or crap PC) AS THE FILE IS 2.4Mb

Enjoy

http://www.s166324307.websitehome.co.uk/sk8/608-jh2.pdf

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I´m impressed - Thats cool
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Wow that is bearing porn at its finest!!!
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wow :shock: who woulda thought bearings were soooo interesting.....

Now am I reading this right? WD40 is good for bearings?
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It's back...
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You have impressed Wayne-ur,

good work.

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martin wrote:I'm guessin DTB is gonna have a baby when he sees this.


Its a girl! (Natch!).

Popped out really quick.... thanks to WD40 :wink:

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isn't it all a bit overbearing?

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SteveS wrote:It's back...


It was only a matter of time.

I think there should be a global/permenant link to this thread on every skateboard related web-site.
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they have the word CARDIEL written on them. so they must be very very fast.
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I can't believe this thread has popped up again, nice .pfd though!
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I just read this whole thread and now i want to pluck my eyes out and thrust them in the fire.

I have some zoo york bearings, they are a bit pink. They clash a bit with the old green wheels.
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inters wrote:I just read this whole thread and now i want to pluck my eyes out and thrust them in the fire.


Did you lose two days of your life doing it? I did :roll:
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I have some zoo york bearings


I would go back and read this thread again then :D
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Craigee wrote:I would go back and read this thread again then :D


please no :?

I did buy them well before i read all this tosh. I have bones reds in my park board and the zoo yorks in my longboard. At least the zoo yorks came with spacers.

Anyone for a shot of DW40? :twisted:
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Please please please please can you fix it for me to lock and delete the bearing thread for all time

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Come on now,

DTB is away at a Hi-Fi warm-beer Hippy convention.
SCS is not posting for the time being - we are not sure why - but would be glad to hear he is alive & well?

What's ur problem.
If people write this drivel & u can actually be bothered to waste ur life reading it, then sadly u have nobody to blame.

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martin wrote:
DTB is away at a Hi-Fi warm-beer Hippy convention.


^^ :-) That was achally true!!! I'm back now.

Natch...The best amps had WD40 applied to the volume controls y'know.............

Anyone tried it in magic rolling board bearings? Bloke down a Yorkshire pub said it was really good in the old days....

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No but I do need do ti put some in the lock on my front door
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ceramics or steel bearings ?

whats your favourite ?
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unusual wrote:ceramics or steel bearings ?

whats your favourite ?

Did I hear that titanium might be good for bearings?
Anyone with any metallurgical/engineering knowledge care to comment?

(Or was it unobtainium, or adamantium? Pretty sure it was someone down the pub who mentioned it but my recollection is hazy. :?)
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adamantium.

made from pure concentrated adam ant.

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I heard it was Rockinronium :?
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unusual wrote:ceramics or steel bearings ?

whats your favourite ?


Ceramics
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To circumvent the possible, worrying, locking of this ere thread....

I have created a Facebook group called,

Lovers of the 'Bearing thread'


Viva la bearing thread


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I got some cheap bearings off of ebay, £2.75 for 10.
Used them for the Bath To Bristol push in the wet.

Still good when I took em' out, slight emulsifiaction of the grease in one of them though.
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Joolz wrote:To circumvent the possible, worrying, locking of this ere thread....

I have created a Facebook group called,

Lovers of the 'Bearing thread'


Viva la bearing thread


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I thought you were joking until I looked at my inbox and there was an email inviting me to join said Facebook group :shock:
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Trevenen wrote:
unusual wrote:ceramics or steel bearings ?

whats your favourite ?

Did I hear that titanium might be good for bearings?
Anyone with any metallurgical/engineering knowledge care to comment?

(Or was it unobtainium, or adamantium? Pretty sure it was someone down the pub who mentioned it but my recollection is hazy. :?)


We use Ti bearings at work.
60% the weight of Steel Nomassium), but very expensive TiNitride coatings.
Can't think of a good reason to use them in a skateboard.
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Post Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:32 pm

I've stayed out of this until now but I'll add my tuppence-worth since the thread has reignited.

I ride Standard Swiss. Shields off and a 6 to 9 monthly cleans in a citrus based cleaner followed by a drying and minimal lube with bones speed lube. Basically they're unlubricated 99% of the time.

My experience with NMBs/Generic £1 a pop sealed bearings is that there is more of a feeling of rolling resistance, I definitely prefer the way the Swiss "feel".

I can get as much speed out of NMBs in a straight line, but as soon as carving is involved I perceive a lot more "drag" from NMBs. In a head-to-head test a couple of years ago I could carve the mantub fast enough for tears to stream with Swiss in, but remained as manly as I'll ever be when trying to cause the same effect with NMBs in.

Couple this with the lack of maintenance compared to popping out and replacing NMBs as and when they go bad (they seem to need to be continually replaced) the choice to me is clear.

£36 for one set of Bones Swiss which will ride on through puddles, grit, mud with the same "feel" retained is money well spent. I reckon you might save a few quid with NMBs despite their higher MTBF, but if you don't have a spare ready to hand you can very often have a compromised skate... the lack of maintenance swings the overall value measure clearly in the favour of Swiss for me.

Plus there is "the feel".

It's there, it's definitely there!

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Joolz wrote:To circumvent the possible, worrying, locking of this ere thread....

I have created a Facebook group called,

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Viva la bearing thread


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I've joined, best group Facebook.
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Post Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:31 pm

Anyone tried Indy bearings?

Can't say how they compare with Swiss and ceramics an' all that but defo smoother and faster than Reds.

just thought I'd throw that into the mix :wink:
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oooh indy bearings you say?
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They come with spacers and washers too I hear...

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^^^ Bloke down the pub told me if you buy enough Indy stuff you get a free Indy tatoo
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Going to clean my bearings today, Powell Swiss 6 with white spirit then a few drops a speed lube
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Craigee wrote:Going to clean my bearings today, Powell Swiss 6 with white spirit then a few drops a speed lube


No WD40?

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No WD40?


No run out, I tend to use it on everything esp pies :lol:
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disco dons ceramics for me.

talking about feel.

they just feel the nicest. everything else feels poo poo.
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Can we start talking about spacers now please :wink:

Who uses them ?

Back in the day they were mandatory, but seems lots of kids these days dont use them with their silly little wheels
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i dont actually know if i have spacers?
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Post Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:45 pm

SimonB wrote:Can we start talking about spacers now please :wink:

Who uses them ?

Back in the day they were mandatory, but seems lots of kids these days dont use them with their silly little wheels


Wouldn't go anywhere without them - that's why the Indy bearings are so good, they come together and you don't have to go fishing around in old wheels looking for them.

I also reckon that's why old school skaters go faster :P

BTW what are 8mm spacers for?
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Harry Ramsden wrote:
BTW what are 8mm spacers for?


Rollerskate wheels and some Kryptonics and a few others such as Powerflex wheels from bitd.

Technically not 10mm and 8mm but .400" and .300"
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Post Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:09 pm

Alec wrote:Powerflex wheels from bitd.

Ah right, would that include Powerflex 5s? Might have found a home for my spare 8mms

Alec wrote:Technically not 10mm and 8mm but .400" and .300"

Didn't know that. Seems like there's a lot of confusion between imperial and metric sizes in skating.

Shall we get started on axle diameters now? :lol:
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Harry Ramsden wrote:
Alec wrote:Powerflex wheels from bitd.

Ah right, would that include Powerflex 5s? Might have found a home for my spare 8mms


Yes Powerflex 5's take an 8mm spacer

Harry Ramsden wrote:
Alec wrote:Technically not 10mm and 8mm but .400" and .300"

Didn't know that. Seems like there's a lot of confusion between imperial and metric sizes in skating.

Shall we get started on axle diameters now? :lol:


Oooh please.
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