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Post Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:23 pm

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Trevenen wrote:I can't remember who suggested it now! :lol:

It was me. Yes the Dor-town posse are still going for doors open, all day session.


8) cool. What time are you all staying til? Me, Emmett and Jelly are planning to get there for 6 ish, skate til closed.
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Post Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:38 pm

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Wouldn't mind getting a good look at yours some time Paul (oh er), the killer 187s are to big for me but need to try pads before i buy :s
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Post Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:49 pm

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ben g wrote:
Trevenen wrote:I can't remember who suggested it now! :lol:

It was me. Yes the Dor-town posse are still going for doors open, all day session.


8) cool. What time are you all staying til? Me, Emmett and Jelly are planning to get there for 6 ish, skate til closed.

we'll probably be fooked by 5, but will either stay on and watch or go get a bite to eat and come back and skate some more.
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Post Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:22 pm

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Collected my deadbolts from Paul on Saturday - Thank again Paul for sorting the pads, shame you missed the A group final, some great vert action... (AW)

I got them home that evening and promptly set about trying on for fit. At first I was a little concerned that the pads seemed to sit on the knee and the bindings / straps felt slightly alien and a little unsubstantial when compared to my 187s straps. I needn't have worried as the next morning I took my old bones down to Hayle for sunrise session. Once there I set about fitting the Deadbolts, this took a bit getting used to as one straps wraps under the pad body to velco and other strap wrapping over and attaching to the top velcro, forming a combo gasket feel. After a few minutes my concerns regarding the knee cup dissipated with my knee becoming enveloped by the pad. This must be related to the memory foam lining forming to the shape of my knees once warm. Straightaway I knew the pads were going to be comfortable, and over the subsequent hours I almost forgot I was wearing them. My knees were kept warm but not too sweaty by the end of the session.
It only had one opportunity to to test the protection factor, a minor 'bail to knees' but the pads soaked up the impact without issue, apart from the Hayle crete stripping the shine of the caps. :) I'm giving them another outing on Wednesday to see how they fair on the to Mount Hawke wood. I'm sure there'll be much 'bailing to knees' then... :D
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Post Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:37 am

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Still haven't used mine in anger since my ill fated knee bash. Doh.
Yeah hope to get to either Prime tomorrow night or Hawke Wednesday to test them out properly. 8)
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Krammer wrote:I got them home that evening and promptly set about trying on for fit. At first I was a little concerned that the pads seemed to sit on the knee and the bindings / straps felt slightly alien and a little unsubstantial when compared to my 187s straps. I needn't have worried as the next morning I took my old bones down to Hayle for sunrise session. Once there I set about fitting the Deadbolts, this took a bit getting used to as one straps wraps under the pad body to velco and other strap wrapping over and attaching to the top velcro, forming a combo gasket feel. After a few minutes my concerns regarding the knee cup dissipated with my knee becoming enveloped by the pad. This must be related to the memory foam lining forming to the shape of my knees once warm. Straightaway I knew the pads were going to be comfortable, and over the subsequent hours I almost forgot I was wearing them. My knees were kept warm but not too sweaty by the end of the session.
It only had one opportunity to to test the protection factor, a minor 'bail to knees' but the pads soaked up the impact without issue, apart from the Hayle crete stripping the shine of the caps. :) I'm giving them another outing on Wednesday to see how they fair on the to Mount Hawke wood. I'm sure there'll be much 'bailing to knees' then... :D
I believe Trevenen will be there also and will report his own experiences of the Deadbolts...


It does take a little bit of getting use to with the straps as we did away with the old system and invented our own system.

Over time neoprene shrinks from heat and moisture. So whether it's hot outside, or you wash and dry the pads in a dryer, they will shrink. Our strapping systems has a huge range in sizing, so regardless of when your pads shrink, they will always have a custom fit.

We also got rid of that plastic buckle which makes getting the pads on and off much faster.

I glad to hear that they were comfy and forgot you were wearing them. The way the foam fits your knee forms a gasket and with 2" thick foam, you really should not feel any slams.

Thanks for posting up Krammer...I look forward to hearing more down the road once you have bailed a ton on them.

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Post Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:29 pm

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Picked mine up from parcel force today after paying another £20+, tried them on, seem a bit big for me, straps wise, ordered l-xxl, maybe should have gone with the smaller ones

Anyone get the smaller ones, how do they fit?, anyone want to swap?

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Post Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:15 am

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^^^ Dave I thought the same but I then pulled made te underneath bottom strap tighter and did that one first and the they fited perfectly
Not tried on a slam yet, still a little nervous with my fucked knee but think if I am ever to skate properly again these babies wil save me
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Post Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:06 am

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I feel the same Craigee, bashed my knee just before having a chance to try them. But now it's mostly mended I feel confident these babies are the best thing to have on there. ;)

Dave did you measure your leg? They do recommend it. But yeah, there should be plenty of leeway on the velcro to overlap them.
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These straps are ridiculously long. My pads are un-useable. :(

I know Mike, Jonno and the team have put a huge amount of research into developing these knee pads but for me, they've a bit further to go. I'm totally sure these will evolve into great pads.

I like the fact that my knee is cupped over the top but I do not like the fact that the lower sides of my knee caps are exposed with only 5mm neoprene covering them. The Deadbolt pads are bulky on the front and will easily get pushed aside when bailing on round wall. I have compared them to my 187's and these have all of my knee covered, they do not move around and they do show plenty of wear on all sides of the pads. Their one weak spot is possibly the top of the knee cap as I have found out.

I wear large size 187s so was confident that the sml/med would fit. The foam fits my knee cap well but the rest of the pad is too big to be safe on my knees. I thought I had received XXLs??


Our batch should not have been shipped out with the strap defect. :roll:

To be honest I would not have purchased them if I had tried them first and that is my own fault.
Can I return them to you Trevenen for a credit?

I know Mike and Des were pretty happy with their pads but they still need altering.

Please see this a feed back not a not winge'ing.
I would be interested to see other peoples views also.
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JellyHead wrote:These straps are ridiculously long. My pads are un-useable. :(

I know Mike, Jonno and the team have put a huge amount of research into developing these knee pads but for me, they've a bit further to go. I'm totally sure these will evolve into great pads.

I like the fact that my knee is cupped over the top but I do not like the fact that the lower sides of my knee caps are exposed with only 5mm neoprene covering them. The Deadbolt pads are bulky on the front and will easily get pushed aside when bailing on round wall. I have compared them to my 187's and these have all of my knee covered, they do not move around and they do show plenty of wear on all sides of the pads. Their one weak spot is possibly the top of the knee cap as I have found out.

I wear large size 187s so was confident that the sml/med would fit. The foam fits my knee cap well but the rest of the pad is too big to be safe on my knees. I thought I had received XXLs??


Our batch should not have been shipped out with the strap defect. :roll:

To be honest I would not have purchased them if I had tried them first and that is my own fault.
Can I return them to you Trevenen for a credit?

I know Mike and Des were pretty happy with their pads but they still need altering.

Please see this a feed back not a not winge'ing.
I would be interested to see other peoples views also.

I think that's a very apt assessment not a whinge at all.
Mine will be fine with the addition of two small lengths of velcro that I'll do myself rather than go to the effort of sending them here, posting them there, etc. Really its a time / lazy issue with me.
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JellyHead wrote:These straps are ridiculously long. My pads are un-useable. :(

I know Mike, Jonno and the team have put a huge amount of research into developing these knee pads but for me, they've a bit further to go. I'm totally sure these will evolve into great pads.

I like the fact that my knee is cupped over the top but I do not like the fact that the lower sides of my knee caps are exposed with only 5mm neoprene covering them. The Deadbolt pads are bulky on the front and will easily get pushed aside when bailing on round wall. I have compared them to my 187's and these have all of my knee covered, they do not move around and they do show plenty of wear on all sides of the pads. Their one weak spot is possibly the top of the knee cap as I have found out.

I wear large size 187s so was confident that the sml/med would fit. The foam fits my knee cap well but the rest of the pad is too big to be safe on my knees. I thought I had received XXLs??


Our batch should not have been shipped out with the strap defect. :roll:

To be honest I would not have purchased them if I had tried them first and that is my own fault.
Can I return them to you Trevenen for a credit?

I know Mike and Des were pretty happy with their pads but they still need altering.

Please see this a feed back not a not winge'ing.
I would be interested to see other peoples views also.


I am with you on this one jelly
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Post Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:21 pm

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I'm not planning to keep mine either, I didn't use them at Hemel, as I just didn't feel confident in them, and the fit felt a little sloppy. I did measure before ordering too. If I was to compare these to 187's as they are right now , they would come off second best, purely in terms of the way I look at the construction. In their defense, I saw Mike Day take a couple of scary huge bails in the big bowl at Hemel, the sort when you're watching it makes you hold your breath! and he walked away with no problems at all. Des also said he was delighted with them. They are very comfortable, and it might be that the lightweight feel to them is counter-intuitive, having been used to the bulky solidity of 187's. Also, thanks to whoever had a little carpet kneeslide in them before I got them, I didn't notice the marks til I got them home the next day. Slightly used pads anyone?
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thebuaffalo wrote:I'm not planning to keep mine either, I didn't use them at Hemel, as I just didn't feel confident in them, and the fit felt a little sloppy. I did measure before ordering too. If I was to compare these to 187's as they are right now , they would come off second best, purely in terms of the way I look at the construction. In their defense, I saw Mike Day take a couple of scary huge bails in the big bowl at Hemel, the sort when you're watching it makes you hold your breath! and he walked away with no problems at all. Des also said he was delighted with them. They are very comfortable, and it might be that the lightweight feel to them is counter-intuitive, having been used to the bulky solidity of 187's. Also, thanks to whoever had a little carpet kneeslide in them before I got them, I didn't notice the marks til I got them home the next day. Slightly used pads anyone?

What size, how much and i've got a set of brand new medium 187s if your interested
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Post Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:24 pm

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Thank you for the replies and honest feedback. I talked with Paul a few days ago about the strap issue and I had hoped he would get with you folks.

Our manufacturer screwed up with the length of the straps and made them too large. We have since moved onto another manufacturer that we feel much better with. Your right Jelly, we should have tried them on to make sure that they were perfect going out the door.

We already felt behind in getting the pads out so it did not happen. Please keep in mind that we are a brand new company with a brand new product. We did offer a discounted price and then refunded back 30% off of that. We also paid for half the cost of shipping to the UK and all of the cost of the VAT.

I know you are not knocking and I do appreciate hearing all of the feedback..good or bad. In the end, we really are not making anything off of the pads sent to the UK, so the feedback is what is important to us.

Moving forward, we do want to make it right with the straps and so we can do one of two things.. send the pads to Jonno in Finland and he can fix the straps properly, or take them to a seamstress and we will be happy to refund the cost to fix them.

I apologize again for the straps not being right...

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I did get the discount but did pay full price on the shipping, then got hit with vat etc, mine cost me £85, Des seams happy with them as he has had mine
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Seeing as i also skated with these pads on Friday i thought i would give my view on them.
Firstly i was disappointed with the length of strap as i do av a pair of chicken legs, it then took me a while to get them holding up but with the help of my gaskets and some gaffa tape i managed to get them fitting reasonably
So set about putting them through there pace's, firstly i thought how nice and light they felt and the caps slide good but you can never replicate an incident unless it happens for real, so who had a big incident... yes moi. Now all i can say is im so glad i had these pads on cos i left my board at speed and carried on 8 to 9ft sqaure onto my knee's, in the short time it took me to hit the ground i was was thinking FUCK this is gonna hurt,then nothing...thats right nothing did'nt feel a thing, got up and walked away without any pain what so ever, now this would not have been the case had i been wearing my old boneless! Had a couple more bails but none like that so i would have to say they are extremely good in a square on landing and im glad i've got them. :D
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BOWL TROLL wrote:Seeing as i also skated with these pads on Friday i thought i would give my view on them.
Firstly i was disappointed with the length of strap as i do av a pair of chicken legs, it then took me a while to get them holding up but with the help of my gaskets and some gaffa tape i managed to get them fitting reasonably
So set about putting them through there pace's, firstly i thought how nice and light they felt and the caps slide good but you can never replicate an incident unless it happens for real, so who had a big incident... yes moi. Now all i can say is im so glad i had these pads on cos i left my board at speed and carried on 8 to 9ft sqaure onto my knee's, in the short time it took me to hit the ground i was was thinking FUCK this is gonna hurt,then nothing...thats right nothing did'nt feel a thing, got up and walked away without any pain what so ever, now this would not have been the case had i been wearing my old boneless! Had a couple more bails but none like that so i would have to say they are extremely good in a square on landing and im glad i've got them. :D


Fuck yea...now that's awesome to hear. Stoked that you were able to walk away with no pain.

Adrian Jones was skating a pool in Arizona a few months back. I think Paul also skated it(Charlottes). Anyways, Adrian came off the lip wrong and it shot him out and straight to the flat..about a good 7 feet. He walked away feeling nothing and was also thankful he had on our pads.
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JellyHead wrote:Can I return them to you Trevenen for a credit?

I don't know how that would work? I guess that will be up to Mike. Have you used them at all?

I am not sure if I will be doing another batch, probably not as I'm sure Mike won't cover the half shipping and ALL the duty like he did again. I can do the numbers to see if the way we did it is slightly cheaper than single sets, it might be.

I am going to add my own review as I used mine for the first time properly today. I love them. Full stop.

Now, I do realise that I think the pair I had were from a later batch, they came in a separate box with no packaging and without caps so I guess they are a different batch and it seems they don't have the long strap issue (which lets face it, is only a bit of cutting and sewing to fix and Mike has said he will pay for that, the guy's bending over backwards here!)

Regardless of that, I was able to tweak the cap placement a bit (I found that once wearing them I had to move the caps lower and a little bit towards centre, from what I thought when I attached them unworn.) Once on and riding they were extremely comfortable straight from the start, in that I didn't feel like I was wearing pads from my first run. When i did eventually bail (it took I while, I skeet good :P ) I kneeslid without thinking too much about it. If anything they slide almost too well, but the concrete ramp I was riding is super smooth. I wish i had some of the Lexan caps to compare, maybe a slightly slower slide would have been good, but on any other ramp I think they will be perfect.

I didn't really have anything like Mike's bail to test the padding, but by falling on to my knees from standing on purpose just as a test they cushioned the impact completely.

I just wish my padded shorts had done as well for my arse when I sat down hard on the coping trying a back smith. OUCH! :%
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Trevenen, I was thinking maybe I could send these back to you to resell (unused) and then be in credit for an updated version some time?


Re: the straps, I would have to cut the neoprene down as well as the straps and re-velcro them. I don't really want to modify the straps as I don't think the main pad is usable for me. :( The caps look very tough and solid though!

I have put the Deadbolts on a few times at home and I can not get them tight enough to hold the padding solid. The main pad feels too manoeuvrable as the supporting neoprene stretches when any sideways pressure is applied to the main pad. I think even with the straps set very tight that the neoprene allows the main pad to move.

I was just looking back at the photos at the start of the thread about the foam padding. I know there have been design changes but I do not have 2" of foam in my pads? I have a single main grey pad which is 25mm thick. on the inside is a comfy soft layer of pink memory foam (12mm?) My Deadbolts have 37mm of foam. No air pocket? Is this what you have Trev? As Mike has said they have changed manufacturers I am wondering if they have given Mike what he has asked of them??

Just checked my 187s. They have one white 22mm layer and a 2nd grey 22mm layer which looks the same as the Deadbolts foam. My 187s have 44mm of solid foam.

If the Deadbolt foam sounds wrong I can take some photos tomorrow if that helps?

I should point out that Buaffalo has my old 187 pads which were the very early design and not the same as the newer 187 Killer pads that I am using.
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Let me make it up to you Jelly.. keep the pads and I will send you out another set along with anyone else that does not want to deal with the straps.

Our last manufacturer did not meet our expectations and so we moved onto another one. We will have our run done at the end of December and I will get them off the minute we get them.

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thebuaffalo wrote:I'm not planning to keep mine either, I didn't use them at Hemel, as I just didn't feel confident in them, and the fit felt a little sloppy. I did measure before ordering too. If I was to compare these to 187's as they are right now , they would come off second best, purely in terms of the way I look at the construction. In their defense, I saw Mike Day take a couple of scary huge bails in the big bowl at Hemel, the sort when you're watching it makes you hold your breath! and he walked away with no problems at all. Des also said he was delighted with them. They are very comfortable, and it might be that the lightweight feel to them is counter-intuitive, having been used to the bulky solidity of 187's. Also, thanks to whoever had a little carpet kneeslide in them before I got them, I didn't notice the marks til I got them home the next day. Slightly used pads anyone?


Please keep the set you have and along with Jelly's, I will gladly send you out another set as well as pay for the shipping. I think your opinion will change if you give us another chance.
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Dave H wrote:I did get the discount but did pay full price on the shipping, then got hit with vat etc, mine cost me £85, Des seams happy with them as he has had mine


Same thing Dave...keep the set you currently have, maybe see about messing around with the straps so that they will work for the time being.

I will get another set out to you. Paul, maybe I can send everyone's pads in one box and you can help me get them to folks?
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Post Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:47 am

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Mike you rule! (AW) I know there is a lot of belief in these pads from some very experienced riders who already have them.


It would be a shame for people to write them off based on a bit of a manufacturing fault that happened with this batch.

Of course I'm happy for them to be sent to me if that's the way you go... without adding things up it would probably be best to do that rather than sending them out singly?

Also, if these really are going to be replacements (free) then there definitely should be no duty to pay. Just need to be sure to label them properly.
I have also heard that packing them without the retail packaging and physically marking the product, like with a label, as 'free replacement' or something, helps. 8)
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I have also heard that packing them without the retail packaging and physically marking the product, like with a label, as 'free replacement' or something, helps.


Mike, Please see below:

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageVAT_ShowContent&id=HMCE_CL_000061&propertyType=document

If followed should alleviate VAT and duty issues...
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Bloody hell, top man, my knee measures 15 1/2", thigh 17 1/2, calf 15", just to be sure to get them right /)
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OLDMANARMY wrote:Let me make it up to you Jelly.. keep the pads and I will send you out another set along with anyone else that does not want to deal with the straps.

Our last manufacturer didot meet our expectations and so we moved onto another one. We will have our run done at the end of December and I will get them off the minute we get them.

Will that work?


That would be brilliant Mike, thank you.

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JellyHead wrote:
I was just looking back at the photos at the start of the thread about the foam padding. I know there have been design changes but I do not have 2" of foam in my pads? I have a single main grey pad which is 25mm thick. on the inside is a comfy soft layer of pink memory foam (12mm?) My Deadbolts have 37mm of foam. No air pocket? Is this what you have Trev? As Mike has said they have changed manufacturers I am wondering if they have given Mike what he has asked of them??
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Not trying to rock the boat Mike, but is this the final design with the new manufacturer as well?
I don't think an extra, what 150mm of padding ? will greatly effect my safety, ( I'm not gung-ho enough ), just curious to know if its design choice or manufacturer error.
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OLDMANARMY wrote:Please keep the set you have and along with Jelly's, I will gladly send you out another set as well as pay for the shipping. I think your opinion will change if you give us another chance.

That's really generous of you. Thank's very much.
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JellyHead wrote:
I was just looking back at the photos at the start of the thread about the foam padding. I know there have been design changes but I do not have 2" of foam in my pads? I have a single main grey pad which is 25mm thick. on the inside is a comfy soft layer of pink memory foam (12mm?) My Deadbolts have 37mm of foam. No air pocket? Is this what you have Trev? As Mike has said they have changed manufacturers I am wondering if they have given Mike what he has asked of them??
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Not trying to rock the boat Mike, but is this the final design with the new manufacturer as well?
I don't think an extra, what 150mm of padding ? will greatly effect my safety, ( I'm not gung-ho enough ), just curious to know if its design choice or manufacturer error.


I thought you said that if you messed with the straps a little bit that your set will work. I will send you another set also for the inconvenience on this first go around like everyone else.

No reason to get into what's happened with our first manufacturer. We were not happy with the end result and have moved on. The 2nd set you will receive will be made properly and I believe you will be happy with them.

I will need to compile another list. Please provide me with the sizes on what everyone needs. If you are unsure, measure 4" above your knee cap and around your thigh. Provide me with your measurement and I will make the correct size determination for you.
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Post Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:57 pm

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ben g wrote:
JellyHead wrote:150mm

Thats 15cm.......6 inches...........think that'd counter saftey :D :lol: :lol:
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OLDMANARMY wrote:
ben g wrote:
JellyHead wrote:
I was just looking back at the photos at the start of the thread about the foam padding. I know there have been design changes but I do not have 2" of foam in my pads? I have a single main grey pad which is 25mm thick. on the inside is a comfy soft layer of pink memory foam (12mm?) My Deadbolts have 37mm of foam. No air pocket? Is this what you have Trev? As Mike has said they have changed manufacturers I am wondering if they have given Mike what he has asked of them??
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Not trying to rock the boat Mike, but is this the final design with the new manufacturer as well?
I don't think an extra, what 150mm of padding ? will greatly effect my safety, ( I'm not gung-ho enough ), just curious to know if its design choice or manufacturer error.


I thought you said that if you messed with the straps a little bit that your set will work. I will send you another set also for the inconvenience on this first go around like everyone else.

No reason to get into what's happened with our first manufacturer. We were not happy with the end result and have moved on. The 2nd set you will receive will be made properly and I believe you will be happy with them.

I will need to compile another list. Please provide me with the sizes on what everyone needs. If you are unsure, measure 4" above your knee cap and around your thigh. Provide me with your measurement and I will make the correct size determination for you.

No worries, I'm happy with mine..no need for a second set. I was just curious if you'd deliberately reduced the 2 " padding as the design evolved ?
As for my skills at sizing 150mm = not enough coffee..thank your lucky stars I'm not an engineer :lol:
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Post Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:52 pm

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The foam had been cut and formed by hand. Moving foward it will be cut by dyes and formed in molds to ensure we are getting no deviation from the design.
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Post Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:49 pm

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Mike I've not tried mine yet (they are still with Trev and I am out injured at the moment), but just want to say that is brilliant support you are giving the guys who have had issues witht the pads. Well done.
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Cookie wrote:Mike I've not tried mine yet (they are still with Trev and I am out injured at the moment), but just want to say that is brilliant support you are giving the guys who have had issues witht the pads. Well done.

We know we did not get off on the right foot here so it's our intent that we make sure everyone is happy in the end.

Not sure how long your out but maybe if you can wait just let Paul keep your set and I will get off a proper set with everyone's in dec. Or keep them as a backup.
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Post Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:42 pm

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If there's a small set kicking about no body want's i'd happily pay for them, i'm good with a sewing needle :lol:
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Ash P wrote:
ben g wrote:
JellyHead wrote:150mm

Thats 15cm.......6 inches...........think that'd counter saftey :D :lol: :lol:


JellyHead didn't wrote 150mm :?
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Ash P wrote:If there's a small set kicking about no body want's i'd happily pay for them, i'm good with a sewing needle :lol:

I guess if one of the guys who got mediums and isn't going to use them wants to send them down?

I only have XLs left in the box of unclaimed ones. Cookie, Craig (not on here) and Parker.

Not sure why Parker hasn't got in touch, I'll PM him.
I think the XLs should fit ok, for those that measured their legs right, as the straps are the right length.
The medium sets' straps are XL length as far as I can see, having compared a M set to an XL set.
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Trevenen wrote:
Ash P wrote:If there's a small set kicking about no body want's i'd happily pay for them, i'm good with a sewing needle :lol:

I guess if one of the guys who got mediums and isn't going to use them wants to send them down?

I only have XLs left in the box of unclaimed ones. Cookie, Craig (not on here) and Parker.

Not sure why Parker hasn't got in touch, I'll PM him.
I think the XLs should fit ok, for those that measured their legs right, as the straps are the right length.
The medium sets' straps are XL length as far as I can see, having compared a M set to an XL set.

Hi Trev, not sure where it went wrong but If you remember I changed from XL to the S/M after measuring my legs, so they are probably not going to fit me anyway. If Mike is going to send out a replacement (M please) then maybe someone else can make use of the XL pair you have there.
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Hmm ok well I guess that's my fault as I didn't update my 'master list'. Sorry.

I don't have a set of medium for you. BUT I was short one set overall that I was waiting on Mike to send as I had someone who would kindly wait. Mike could you now rush those as a medium if you haven't already sent them, and send them direct to Cookie? that would work. Of course that's only if you still have stock.

I do have someone who I think would use the XL, He's got tree trunk legs. 8)
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Trevenen wrote:Hmm ok well I guess that's my fault as I didn't update my 'master list'. Sorry.

I don't have a set of medium for you. BUT I was short one set overall that I was waiting on Mike to send as I had someone who would kindly wait. Mike could you now rush those as a medium if you haven't already sent them, and send them direct to Cookie? that would work. Of course that's only if you still have stock.

I do have someone who I think would use the XL, He's got tree trunk legs. 8)



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Trevenen wrote:Hmm ok well I guess that's my fault as I didn't update my 'master list'. Sorry.

I don't have a set of medium for you. BUT I was short one set overall that I was waiting on Mike to send as I had someone who would kindly wait. Mike could you now rush those as a medium if you haven't already sent them, and send them direct to Cookie? that would work. Of course that's only if you still have stock.

I do have someone who I think would use the XL, He's got tree trunk legs. 8)

No worries Trev, it must have been a tricky job organising a big order like that anyway, bound to get a few hiccups. I'm in no rush what so ever to get my pads as I wont be using them probably until the new year, and I still have my old gaffer taped scabs I can use. So I am more than happy to wait for the 'new builds' or whatever is arranged.
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Paul just send me an email please on what needs to be sent and where. Also if you do have an extra set please give them to Woody if you have not already told someone else they could have them.
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Bit more feedback - two sessions in a row, at Prime then Mount Hawke. Spent a lot of time falling to the flat on my knees (small mini ramps) and no problems at all. My still slightly painful knee felt nothing! The pads are getting more comfortable every time as (maybe?) the foam deforms a bit to my own knee shape. Also I have been fiddling with the strap angles and how they sit over my gaskets and I have got the fit better. I will try them without gaskets at some point. I'd love to be able to just throw them on over my jeans for an impulsive skate. 8)
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while I'm not part of Deadbolt gang (I'm perfectly happy with my 187's for the burley-ness of my skating) I have to say that I'm super impressed (but not surprised) with the customer service.

When I'm ready for new pads I'm going to give these a go without a doubt

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Well that's 2 fook off sessions ive had using these brilliant pads :)
I slid slammed all over the bowls in Hemel and they totally protect! The comfort is way better than any other I've used... Brilliant job lads and great to hear you are sorting the strap issues with chaps :)

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Des wrote:Well that's 2 fook off sessions ive had using these brilliant pads :)
I slid slammed all over the bowls in Hemel and they totally protect! The comfort is way better than any other I've used... Brilliant job lads and great to hear you are sorting the strap issues with chaps :)

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seen there bad boys on wednesday, i'll certainly be buying them after my 187s die, so long as they fit chicken kneed legs ;)
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I'm really impressed by the support being offered here, and the way that OMA is trying to do EVERYTHING in his power to make customers happy. Bloody good job, dude great attitude to customer service! :D
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Having tried mine out this morning, I thought I'd post on here. Went for the xl pads, and I think I only just fit into that category (measured 21 inches around, 4 inches above the knee). They felt quite loose at first, with a bit too much sideways movement, and took fairly regular readjustment. That said, having read some of Trev's posts, I think a set of gaskets will be in order, and I was hugely impressed by both the protection offered in a couple of slams, and the customer service I've read regarding the medium pad issue. Pretty pleased so far!
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I gave mine a really good seeing to the other day, 3 parks in a day, about 6 hours skating with the Chip Shop Army boys and they go hard. 2 concrete parks and a skatelite midi. I wore them without gaskets for the first time as they are supposed to work that way. Incredible. I may continue to use gaskets as I think the extra knee support and warmth couldn't hurt, BUT they are totally fine without gaskets as the overlapping neoprene works exactly as they say like a 'built in gasket' Also took plenty of heavy bails to the knees. My legs were totally fucked the next day but my knees (even the still slightly dodgy one I bashed a while back) were fine.

I will say, though, that it has taken me a while to get them so I am totally happy with the fit and the placement of the caps. I might have not been as happy with the clip system TBH, as you would be stuck with the cap in one position like it or lump it. With velcro you can tweak the position of the caps to suit your knees and kneeslide style. I definitely had to fiddle about a bit with both the caps and the straps. Now they fit and feel fine though.

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A question - which cap style works best for wooden vert ramps? I do a lot of knee-sliding: I skate vert 3-5 days a week and knee slide maybe 30 times a session
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If you mean which of the 2 styles mentioned for these pads, well we only have the black PVU ones which are a standard material, these are nice and thick though and plenty slidey for most surfaces. I think the vast majority of pad manufacturers use this or something very similar.

They may be a tiny bit slick for some on skatelite or masonite (hardboard) but I don't mind that. I think that was what Deadbolt wanted to do the Lexan caps for, to add some control on very slick surfaces. I believe they still plan to ship the clear caps as an optional extra with the next batch.
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Any news when the replacements will be coming, mine are falling to bits so may have to get some tempory ones
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Dave H wrote:Any news when the replacements will be coming, mine are falling to bits so may have to get some tempory ones


Order is in with the manufacturer and we are being told production will be finished on 2/1. The UK pads will be heading out the door shortly after.

Strap issues have been fixed
Leather added to a large spot on the front and sides of pads
Foam reshaped to contour better with caps
Air pocket added to foam for more safety

Very pleased with the first version and hope everyone agrees.. looking forward to getting them to you all and hearing everyone's feedback.

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Great news Mike - improvements sound awesome (pretty happy with my mark ones though tbh) so look forward to seeing the mark 2! :)

Will you be sending them singly to each person? May avoid duty that way, sending them all in one go was possibly the problem before. :?
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